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Episode 28: "Just Stress" Becomes a Metabolic Mess

Kacey Wallace

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If you’ve been told “it’s just stress”… but something in you knows there’s more going on—this episode is for you.

Dr. Kacey revisits one of the most important concepts in her work:
 The Metabolic Mess.

Because what you’re feeling—fatigue, brain fog, cravings, poor sleep, mood swings, weight resistance—isn’t random… and it’s not a personal failure.

It’s a pattern.

In this episode, you’ll learn how your metabolism, hormones, and brain are all connected—and how stress, sleep disruption, blood sugar instability, and inflammation can create a full-body domino effect that keeps you stuck.

You’ll also walk away with simple, practical ways to begin restoring rhythm and stability—without trying to overhaul your entire life.

Stop managing symptoms. Mend the mess. Rebuild your resiliency. Reclaim the Real You.

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If you've been told it's just stress and something in you wanted to scream, this episode is for you. I wanted to do another episode about the metabolic mess because if you remember, I did this episode back in episode two, but because the metabolic mess, it explains what so many women feel, but you just can't put it into words. I wanted to go ahead and do a revamp of this for you. When you have this language, you do get some relief and you get some hope. Because stress, it's real, but just stress is the laziest explanation in modern healthcare. And it's especially insulting when you're sitting there thinking, okay, then why can't I sleep? And why do I have why do I wake up tired? And why am I starving at 3 p.m. like I haven't eaten in days? Why is my brain foggy and my mood unpredictable? And I don't even feel like myself anymore. That's not you being dramatic, and it's definitely not you being weak. A lot of the time, what's actually happening is what I call the metabolic mess. And when the metabolic mess is spinning, it is very hard to feel good physically, mentally, emotionally, and even spiritually. Because your body isn't calm, your signals aren't clear, and your system is trying to survive, not just thrive. And so today I want to pull this all apart in a way that finally makes sense. So welcome to the show. I'm Dr. Casey Wallace. That I'm your resiliency rebuilder, your metabolic specialist, whatever you want to call me. Well, maybe not whatever, but the founder of Anchored to Wellness. And if you're here, here's what you should know about me. I'm not here to give you another list of generic tips that make you feel like you're failing at life. I'm here to help you understand why your body is acting the way it's acting and what to do when you're stuck in the spiral. In this episode, we're talking again about the metabolic mess, what it is, how it starts, and why it can make you feel like you're losing control of your body and your mind. And what I want to be really clear about this is not just about weight, this is not just another diet, and it's definitely not going to be just a try harder conversation. This is about the reality that your metabolism doesn't live in isolation. Your metabolism is connected to your stress physiology, your sleep, your blood sugar, your gut, your hormones, your inflammation, and yes, your brain. So when one part gets loud, the whole system can start to spin. And here's what I've seen over and over again. We say, I'm exhausted, I'm overwhelmed, I can't focus, I feel anxious and on edge, I don't feel like myself, and we're told your labs are normal, you're fine, it's probably anxiety, here's something maybe for depression. But what if what if you're experiencing is a pattern? What if your body is communicating? What if it's something real? And what if no one has ever taught you how to translate those signals? So here's what I'm going to do today. I'm going to explain the metabolic mess in a way that makes you go, oh my gosh, that is me. And I'm going to give you a simple framework so you can stop blaming yourself and start getting traction without trying to overall your entire life. Because that goal, it's it isn't perfection. We're not asking perfection. I want you to have stability. The goal is getting you back into rhythm so you can reclaim the real you. So let's get started. Okay. I want to give you a definition that actually helps. When I say metabolic mess, I'm not talking about a number on a scale. I'm not talking about you needing to eat less and move more. And I'm definitely not talking about you being undisciplined. I'm talking about what happens when the body's control systems are no longer working together. Because metabolism isn't just how fast you burn calories. Metabolism is your body's ability to create energy, regulate fuel, and stay stable. And those systems include things like blood sugar regulation, cortisol rhythm, stress hormones, sleep and circadian timing, gut signaling, inflammation, sex hormones, thyroid communication, brain chemistry, and nervous system tone. So when women come to me saying they are tired, they're crashing in the afternoon, they're waking up at two or three o'clock in the morning wide awake, they can't stop craving sugar, they feel inflamed, and all those things, those are signals. And that metabolic mess is what I call it when your signals get scrambled, so your system feels like it's constantly trying to keep you alive, not help you feel good. And here's what brings you hope. When you understand this pattern, it's not a personal failure. You can stop shaming yourself. And when that shame lifts, the traction, it becomes possible. Because if you think your problem is I'm just lazy or I'm broken or I have no willpower, I have no motivation, you will keep trying to push your body into healing. But if your problem is my system's just out of rhythm, then the solution becomes we restore rhythm. I want to talk a little bit about the domino effect of all of this. It's a spiral, it's a mess, it's dominoes. The metabolic mess, it usually doesn't start with just one dramatic event. It will slowly start to be a slow drift over time. It could be a season of chronic stress, it could be a season of poor sleep, or what about a season of being in survival mode because that happens, because life happens. It could be a season of hormone shifting, you know. Hello, perimenopause, or it could be a season of inflammation, gut disruption, nutrient depletion, toxins, trauma patterns. There's so many things our body adapts, it compensates, it will push through. Until one day you wake up and you realize, I don't feel like myself anymore. Here's what that can look like. You're stressed, we all have stress, right? But then our cortisol rhythm can get off. And when that happens, our sleep gets disrupted, and then that blood sugar becomes unstable, which creates more cravings. They get louder, that food noise is louder, then we feel even more out of control, which creates more stress, even that metabolic stress is stress, and then we get more inflamed, and then we have worse hormone signaling, and then worse mood, worse energy, worse focus. And now you know that the loop in their brain is like, why can't I get this together? But your body's like, I'm doing everything I can to survive. And that is why the metabolic mess, it's a full body experience. It's physical, it's mental, it's emotional, and it's biochemical. And it can feel spiritual because you really start to feel like you are losing trust in yourself, like you are not anchored anymore. And this is why I push back when women are told it's just stress. Because yeah, stress matters, stress happens, but the real question is: what has stress done to your physiology over time? What has it done to your nervous system, tone, your sleep, your blood sugar, your gut, your hormones, all the inflammation load? Because if you don't answer that question, you'll keep getting stuck in the same cycle. Try harder, crash harder, blame yourself, repeat, and I want you out of that cycle. So if you take nothing else from this, take this. You're not weak. It's not your motivation, it's not your willpower. Your system is overloaded. And when the system is overloaded, it will send survival signals, cravings, fatigue, brain fog, irritability, anxiety, insomnia, those survival signals can be decoded and the metabolic mess can be mended. So that's what I mean by when I say the metabolic mess, and I want to talk about what that actually means because it doesn't just begin with one bad meal or one skipped workout. It is the pattern of the whole thing. Back to that season we just talked about where our body's running on survival chemistry. When it's doing that for too long, it forgets what stable even feels like. And I want to walk you through the most common domino pathway I see because once you see it, you can't unsee it. And then you can stop shaming yourself. Okay. So domino number one is a stress physiology. It will go from normal to chronic. When we are under stress, whether it's emotional stress, mental stress, job stress, trauma stress, whatever, relationship stress, financial stress, our body doesn't label it. It just sees and hears I'm unsafe. It will adapt. That's what we're designed to do. It will increase the stress chemistry, it will prioritize survival, it will shift your nervous system toward a go mode. That's that sympathetic activation. And at first, it feels like you're functioning, you're getting stuff done, that adrenaline's rushing through, you're pushing through, you're being productive. But eventually the body cannot keep paying that bill without consequences because chronic stress doesn't just affect your mood, it will change your physiology. Let's go through domino number two. Your cortisol rhythm gets off, and that's when your sleep gets weird. That's when everything crazy starts happening. Okay, so cortisol is supposed to follow a rhythm and it's higher in the morning, it'll help you wake up, it helps you have energy, it's slower at night, so you can wind down and you can sleep. But in the metabolic mess, that whole rhythm gets distorted, and that's when you start to hear things like I'm exhausted, I can't shut my brain off, I'm waking up at two or three o'clock in the morning, my brain is going crazy, I'm tired all day, but I get a second wind at night, I can fall asleep, but I can't stay asleep. And the problem is once that sleep gets disrupted, everything downstream gets louder. Sleep is not a luxury. We have to prioritize our sleep because when we sleep, that's circadian rhythm, right? That's when we regulate our blood sugar, reset our inflammation, we balance hormones there, we clear the brain. So if that starts to be a problem, if your sleep is a problem, the whole system starts to wobble. So now let's go to domino number three. Blood sugar becomes unstable. Okay, that's when cravings happen, crashes start ruling the day. Who has cravings? I have cravings sometimes, so it's not fun. That's when we get that afternoon crash, we need the caffeine or we need sugar, we're feeling shaky, irritable, that hangry feeling. We're feeling like we're starving even when we just ate. This is one of the most common places that we tend to kind of lose some trust in ourselves and we'll say things like, I don't know what's wrong with me. I have zero self-control. I'm addicted to sugar. I start the day strong and then it falls apart, and then we start just belittling, oh my gosh, my motivation sucks. Okay. But what's often happening, it's not a lack of discipline, it's unstable blood sugar. And unstable blood sugar, it doesn't just affect your energy, it will affect your mood, your focus, your patience, your anxiety, your sleep, and yes, your weight regulation. So if your blood sugar is riding a roller coaster all day, your brain will do what brains do. It will demand quick fuel. It's going to happen. That's not weakness, that is survival. Okay, so domino number four, inflammation, gut signaling, all those amplify everything. So that layer is the gut, because the gut is not just about digestion, the gut is a signaling center. It will talk to your immune system and also a lot of your immune system is in your gut. It will talk to hormones, it will talk to your brain. So you can see how if the gut is irritated from whatever, from stress or dysbiosis, which is like when the microbiome is not what it should be, inflammatory foods, uh, from this overload of toxins, that low stomach acid, chronic constipation, even things like SIBO, yeast overgrowth, parasites, your whole system can stay inflamed. And that inflammation changes everything. It will make you more reactive, it makes you puffy, it will make you tired, it will make you foggy, and it can make you even more sensitive to stress, which is compounding this whole loop, right? Everything we talked about can get even weirder here because it's just inside this metabolic mess. And that is why women feel like they are doing everything right and nothing is working, because you're trying to fix a system problem with isolated strategies. So this is not all in your head, and I want to say this clearly because it does matter. If you've been told this is all in your head, if you've been boxed into anxiety and depression without anyone asking deeper questions, I'm not saying anxiety and depression aren't real. We're not saying that. But I am saying they are not always the root. So if you're being boxed into that, I think something, someone needs to dig deeper, okay? Sometimes mood symptoms are a downstream expression of a body that's dysregulated, it's inflamed, it's exhausted. Okay. And that matters because when we treat those actual drivers, the blood sugar, the sleep, the gut brain signaling, the hormones, the nervous system, women will often say, Oh my gosh, I feel like myself again. So that's hope. That's the win. Okay. So let's translate this into real life because when you're living inside the metabolic mess, it can feel like you have a hundred random symptoms and none of them make sense together. But what if they are not random? Okay, they are connected signals. We've kind of established that here. So I'm going to say some things that might feel a little too accurate. And as you listen, I want you to notice what hits because I'm not saying this to diagnose yourself, but we can all stop gaslighting ourselves, okay? So, number one, if you're tired all day, but your brain won't shut off at night, okay, that's a pointing to a rhythm problem. You're not just bad at relaxing, it is stress physiology, it's cortisol timing, it's nervous system tone. That's the problem. Your body's basically saying, I don't know when it's safe to power down. And when you don't power down, healing will not happen. So you wake up tired and then the cycle just repeats. Okay. So number two, if you crash in the afternoon and it feels like you need sugar or caffeine to survive, that's a pretty big signal. Okay. You can feel decent in the morning and then somewhere like 2 to 4 p.m., you feel like you hit this wall and suddenly the cravings you're craving something sweet or caffeine or salty or crunchy or whatever. That often points to unstable blood sugar and metabolism that's using quick fuel to compensate. Your body might be saying, Um, I'm running a little low on steady energy, can you give me something fast? And that's why it matters, right? Because blood sugar instability doesn't just affect our energy, it's the mood and focus and patience, all those things. So if you're feeling irritable and overwhelmed or you can't handle things or whatever, sometimes the answer is your brain is underfueled and overstressed. Okay. So number three, if you are snapping at people you love and then feeling guilty afterwards, okay, that hits just hits us hard. Okay. If you feel like your fuse is short, like you're not acting like yourself, like you're more reactive than you want to be, that often points to a system that's inflamed, overstimulated, running on stress chemistry. Our body is saying, I don't have the bandwidth I used to have. That is why I'm so passionate about this message because women have been taught to make this a moral issue, a shame, they shame themselves, it breaks my heart. We tend to say things like, I need to be more grateful, I need better mindset, I need to stop being so sensitive. But if your physiology is in overdrive, you cannot mindset your way out of this. You don't need more shame, you need more stability. So let's go to number four. If you feel foggy, scattered, or like your brain is not working, if you're rereading the same paragraph, forgetting simple things, walking into a room and blanking, feeling like you can't multitask anymore, which technically we really shouldn't do a lot of multitasking, but that's another thing. Okay, that often points to a brain that is not getting what it needs, and a body that's prioritizing survival over performance. Your body's saying, I'm conserving resources, and the hope here is huge because brain fog isn't always aging and it's not always just you. It can be a downstream symptom of these blood sugar things, sleep things, all the things we've already talked about. And when you restore the foundation, the brain often does come back online. Okay, let's go to number five. If you're doing all the right things and your body is still resistant, you're eating good, trying to eat good, trying to move, you're taking some supplements, you're doing the things, but the scale won't budge, the bloating won't stop, the fatigue won't lift. That often points to a deeper driver that hasn't been identified. Your body is saying, I'm not refusing to change, I am protecting you. So sometimes you just want to be like, stop protecting me, you know, but whatever. Okay. Because if your system perceives stress, inflammation, depletion, it will hold on. And that is where women tend to get stuck in the worst loop of all, and that's the try harder, restrict more, overtrain, then sleep worsens, then we crave more, then we feel more inflamed, and then they conclude, well, nothing works, nothing is working. But the truth is you've been just using the wrong lever for the problem. Okay, so here's the hope in all this. If you recognize yourself in any of those, here's the most important thing here. These symptoms are not random, they're not just stress, they're not you being dramatic, and they are not proof you're failing. They are communication. And when you stop and you decode these signals, when you stop treating everything like an isolated problem, you can finally start making progress that actually sticks. So here's what I want to talk about. Um, where the metabolic mess, it's not about throwing random strategies. Okay, it's not a new diet, a new supplement, a new workout plan, a new morning routine. The real shift comes when you understand this. Your body, it doesn't need more pressure. It does need sequence though. But most of the time we do go into fix-it mode. We feel awful and we want to answer now, right? So we start to Google things and we try another diet and we follow more people on Instagram and we listen to more podcasts and we buy another supplement, we push harder, and we try to force our way back to normal. But the metabolic mess is not going to respond to that pressure. It does respond to order. So let me walk you through some of the biggest mistakes I see and what to do instead. Okay, so number one is we're going to stop treating your symptoms like separate problems. That's the trap. You treat fatigue, it's a caffeine problem. Cravings, it's just a willpower problem. Anxiety, it's a personality problem. Uh, our weight, it's a calorie problem. Our brain fog, it's just aging. Okay, these are problems. But if these symptoms are connected, and most of the time they are, we've already talked about that, then isolated solutions will keep, they'll keep failing. Okay. So start asking yourself a better question. What system is driving this right now? Because once you identify the loudest driver, it could be blood sugar, sleep, gut, inflammation, hormones, you can stop chasing 12 random things and start making progress with the right lever. Okay, so the next thing is stop trying to fix a dysregulated body with more restriction. Okay, if your system is already stressed and depleted, restriction will often make it worse. Not always immediately, but sometimes it works in the minute, okay. But you will see a pattern of when getting stricter, we get more tired, we we sleep worse, the cravings, the mood, all the things because our physiology is just working through this. It's just another stress signal. So we start by building stability first, not perfection, but stability, because that's things like steadier fueling, steadier timing of eating, steadier sleep cues, and then a steadier nervous system downshifting. Okay, that's when your body stops bracing and starts cooperating. The next thing, stop picking strategies based on trends instead of patterns. This is where a lot of people get stuck because of all the internet noise, the chaos, there's so much happening. I even get confused sometimes. I'm like, whoa, let's go back. To the basics, okay, because it could be fasting or low carb or seed cycling or hormone hacks or what other biohacking strategies, what about cold plunges? What about sauna? What about this supplement? There's five different supplements that someone swears change their life dramatically, okay. And if if you're trying to assemble a healing plan, it's like trying to put together furniture with no instructions, okay? So just start honoring the truth that your body, it's not just a trend, it's a system, and systems don't heal by just stacking hacks and stacking more supplements and stacking more plans and all those things. They heal by restoring the basics and the right sequence and then layering in what's appropriate for your pattern. The next thing is to stop assuming normal labs mean you're fine. This is a big one. Women are told all the time your labs are normal and then they're sent home, they still feel exhausted, inflamed, foggy, struggling. But normal, it's a statistical range. It does not reflect optimal function. We're waiting for people to get to disease state and not talking about dysfunction. A lot of issues aren't obvious on basic labs until things have been brewing for a long time. But we can start to see dysfunction. We can start using our lives and trust what we're experiencing. And those symptoms are data, and we can combine those symptom patterns and the right kind of functional insight, it does become much easier to stop guessing and start targeting. The next thing is to stop expecting your body to heal in chaos. This is a part really nobody wants to hear. It's the truth. If your life is chaotic, your body never feels safe, your physiology will stay reactive, you can be eating perfect. You can still feel awful if your nervous system is constantly on high alert, though, and the body does not heal well in survival mode. And I get it, we all have a lot going on in our life. A lot of us are busy, but we can start creating anchors because these anchors are little tiny stabilizers that you can repeat often enough that your body will start to think, okay, we're not in this constant emergency anymore. And it will start to heal. I know it sounds too simple, it can sound insultingly basic, but these really do create safety signals. The cravings will quiet down, our energy can stabilize, the mood has more cushion, our sleep can become more efficient. So installing the anchors can be super powerful. But we do need the right sequence because the metabolic mass isn't fixed just by trying harder, it's fixed by restoring rhythm, reducing noise, rebuilding our foundation step by step. So I'm going to give you some high-level starting points. It's not a full protocol, it's not a 47-step plan. It's just the first moves that can create traction, less spinning, more stability. Here are three things that you can do to create more stability. So the first one is create one rhythm anchor in your morning. I want you to stop thinking about you have to have this perfect morning routine. It has to be exactly on track every single day. But our bodies do like routine. So it doesn't have to be perfect, but we're going to pick one anchor that tells our body every day, every morning, today we have some structure, today we have some stability, we are safe. And that could be things like lighten your eyes pretty quickly after you wake up. It can be not touching your phone first thing in the morning, taking a few deep breaths before you even get out of bed. It can be a glass of water before you drink anything else. It can be protein earlier in the day. It can be even a five to 10 minute walk or stretch. And it matters because your body is asking for predictability. And because that predictability, it can create safety, which creates more regulation, which creates healing. So pick an anchor, repeat it, because rhythm beats willpower. The next move is to stabilize your fuel before you try to hack your body. If you're tired and wired and craving sugar, crashing in the afternoon, or feeling hangry and reactive, you don't need more discipline. You need to start with fuel stability. Food is fuel because unstable fuel creates unstable mood and focus and energy. And here's a high-level target plan. It doesn't, again, does not have to be perfect every single day, but try for this, okay? So we want to eat in a way that reduces the roller coaster. So a lot of times when I'm trying to help someone heal, I'm like, you really need to start eating more predictable. You know, give your body predictable food intake on a daily basis. It will start to reduce the roller coaster. Again, I want to emphasize we have to have protein at every meal. These are things you've all heard, but they seem too simple, but they do make a big difference. We can talk about whole foods. More than anything, I'm looking at just adding in proteins right now. And then also, I don't want you going long stretches without fuel. If you are dysregulated, this will make it worse. So when you're trying to regulate, trying to get something in with protein every four to five hours is super powerful. Not while you're sleeping, not asking you to wake up and eat, but like open a 12-hour window of eating every day, and you're going to eat pretty predictively every four to five hours within that 12 hours, which would be eating like three times, preferably your protein with your other food. Okay. You don't have to track macros, but this does start to create some steady energy and it kind of starts to deplete that like crash and crave cycle. Okay. The next move is to add one downshift on purpose every day. What is that looking like? Because we are living in a sympathetic dominance. We don't even realize it. Like we're productive, we're functioning, we're getting things done, but our body's tight, our breath is shallow, our mind is racing, the nervous system is actually never powering down. So I want you to do one deliberate downshift. It doesn't have to be a whole spa day. I mean, it can be that. I'm all for that. It doesn't have to be a meditation retreat. Again, let's do that. That sounds awesome. But a downshift can be two minutes of slow breathing. You know, every time you go to the bathroom, do some slow breathing. It can be a short walk, preferably without your phone, without listening to a podcast or more things to push through. Okay. You can even lay with your legs up on the wall or sit outside in silence. It can be a hot shower. It can be journaling. There's so many things. It's not just self-care, okay? This is physiology. Find what works for you because your body, it will not heal if it never gets the signal that the emergency is over. So these are these sound too simple, right? But simple does not mean insignificant. When the system is overloaded, the goal is not optimization. The first goal, again, stability. It's what creates momentum. It makes the body feel safer and more regulated. It will make the mess calm down a little bit because the mess makes the mess louder. Okay, so let's slow the mess down because that will help a lot. So let's wrap this up. If you're living in this pattern for a long time, it can be hard to figure out what your biggest driver is without clarity and direction. And you deserve clarity. You deserve to stop guessing. And if you're thinking, okay, I need a plan that's not overwhelming. This is the framework I use to guide a lot of women out of the metabolic mess. And that is reset, repair, rebuild. We reset the chaos first because a body that's dysregulated, it won't heal. Okay. Then we repair the real drivers underneath the symptoms, and then we rebuild resilience so you don't slide back into survival mode the minute life gets stressful again. It can be simple, right? It sounds too simple. It's so powerful. I've seen it all the time. I see, I do this every day. I see it all the time. Because if it gives your body the sequence it's been missing, okay? So if you're thinking, oh my gosh, that makes sense. I want, I want you to hold that. That's relief. That's hope. Okay, that it's not just you. Because the biggest lie women have been sold is that if they're struggling, it must just be that you're failing, you're not disciplined, you're not consistent, you're not strong enough. And I want to say clearly, you are not weak, you're not crazy, you are dealing with a system that's been overloaded for too long, and your body has been doing its best to adapt. So the metabolic mess is what happens when your control systems stop working together. Okay. When those systems get out of rhythm, your body starts sending survival signals, and the goal isn't to attack your symptoms with random solutions. The goal is to restore order because healing doesn't come from pressure, healing comes from rhythm. So pick your anchor, not 10 things, not perfection, one anchor, and see, do you feel a little bit more stable? Maybe just 5%. Do you have a little more energy? Are you a little less reactive? Okay, because it's not going to change overnight. It takes time to heal. And you didn't get this way in one day, so don't expect to heal in one day. When the metabolic mess is spinning, it can be really hard to see the pattern from being inside the pattern. And that's why I'm doing this episode again. I'm rehashing this episode and revamping it for you because it has so much power to understand why we stay stuck in trial and error for years. And you deserve better than guessing. And you may want to decode this to be like, okay, how can I rebuild my foundations? These are some places to start. It just can help give you some support because the metabolic mess can be mended and you can reclaim the real you. If this landed for you, please share this episode with someone. If you're being told it's just stress, share this with someone that you know is being told that as well. So I've been working on ways to make this more accessible to everyone because functional medicine is extremely powerful, but there are so many options out there that can feel very overwhelming. So we have a resources page that we'll put in the show notes that will help you to understand better. I would say the biggest thing I want people to see is what is your cortisol rhythm looking like through the day and what is your DHEA? Because that will help you validate how you're feeling. It will help you see it on paper and understand how you can heal that. So we'll have a link for how you can look more into this. Okay. So again, I just want to say you are not messed up. Okay. The metabolic mess, it can be mended. You can reclaim the real you. I will see you in the next episode.